If the protagonist activates the Wish Granter, one of the 5 endings are shown, based on your actions throughout the course of your campaign. Was he trying to tell us we need faith, faith in miracles, faith in love, faith in God to do this? 8. Stalker compels us to dig within ourselves, explore our own nature, and discover our own depth. I couldn't look away. We therefore ask the same questions the characters ask throughout. My answers will follow. Most of these movies also lack sex scenes for being 80s-90s R rated movies. New Zealand thrash metal exponents Stalker have released their crushingly brutal second album Black Majik Terror, a brilliant journey into old school thrash that should solidify the bands growing reputation. ...and is there a cross over into our actual world? However, in terms of horror elements, this new Netflix horror movie did actually deliver. Because we are the ones on the journey! The characters of the film find redemption and hence avoid the danger, but they still haven't understood the fundamental mystery of the Zone (God), which the child comprehends intuitively through her astonishing powers. Dang it all. What is the purpose of the journey our three adventurers go on? Your initial answer might be no-one… but wait! 11. It's ultimately about having faith or not having faith. The film tells the story of an expedition led by a figure known as the "Stalker" (Alexander Kaidanovsky), who takes his two clients—a melancholic writer (Anatoly Solonitsyn) seeking inspiration, and a professor (Nikolai Grinko) seeking scientific discovery—to a mysterious restricted site known simply as the "Zone", where there supposedly exists a room which grants a person's innermost desires. The Wife of the Stalker’s speech. We are in the Room as the audience looking back at them - and the Room will give you your heart’s true desire. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, Press J to jump to the feed. During this speech, the wife reveals that she had married her man out of Love, even though she knew this likely meant a very hard, financially insecure life. The … The movie is a bit confusing because of all of the time jumps, but we're going to try and explain it as linearly as possible. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The heyday of the subgenre was the mid 1980s to late 1990s. Most appreciated. Stalker is loosely based on the 1972 novel Roadside Picnic by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky (which I highly recommend), who also wrote the script for the movie. I wanted to keep it R rated, I felt like that would be appropriate, and it’s an expensive movie. NOTE: The narrator is never given a name in the story, but is commonly called "Dathan" by fans, after the author, Dathan Auerbach. Hi, Nothingaboutmeisreal. May be worth a look, if you're a fan of the film. Because soon, at The Stalker's home, we watch as (in that beautiful monologue, which seems almost like a breaking of the Fourth Wall) The Stalker's wife reveals her utterly good heart as she speaks directly to "us" (which, I think, is actually "The Zone's perspective," as if it is reading her deepest thoughts --similar to the way the Angels hear peoples' "Truths" in Wim Wenders' Wings of Desire). Even smaller cities like Portland screen classics, just saw Vertigo in 70mm recently. She still wears a shawl. It seemed out of place to me. While all of those objects matter and are intentionally put there by Tarkovsky the direct A equals B symbolism is never as impactful as the subtle emotional story that he weaves. I still haven't gotten around to watching this so can't really add anything constructive, but I know there is a superb book called 'Zona' by Geoff Dyer that is entirely about the film 'Stalker' and puzzling out it's meaning. To me, this fits a far more accurate parallel to the faith- and empiricism-based worldviews of the other two. Or something like that. Stalker was his second attempt at grappling with science-fiction sub­ject matter, after the space adventure Solaris (1972), though it is different in almost every way from that earlier film, as … Check out all the stalker horrors we could find below including The Hitcher, Death Becomes Her, and Cape Fear. Well, you’ve come to the right place. A discussion on Tarkovsky’s Stalker - and the possible meaning of it’s story. The soundtrack's industrial noise during this sequence reinforces the idea that despite all our industrialization and the resulting loss of religious life, the God-mystery remains. It’s not in the title, and if the detectives don’t know it, the series won’t disclose it. A power beyond. Stalker/Obsession movies by heiduuds | created - 28 Aug 2016 | updated - 7 months ago | Public Movies about creepy stalkers and obsessive people. I have only seen it once though (due to the 3 hour length), maybe I should give it a rewatch. We do. Thanks for the heads-up, hadn't heard of the book, but added to my Amazon wishlist. And the best part is you can make your own public watchlist to share with friends. (Her fine "soul" made possible because of the best attributes of her parents --most especially, her father's humble honest self-awareness.). I would be interested to know who wrote that too. Looking for the Eli ending to be explained? Maybe it was the 64 ounce caffeinated beverage I was sipping, or the socially awkward silences and creaking seats that kept 600 of us holding our breaths so as not to ruin the mood - but the tension was real, and I was riveted to the screen this time, and learned a s**tload about awesome filmmaking. Tarkovsky’s masterpiece Stalker recently screened at a theater in Los Angeles and I was able to stay awake for it’s entirety. First off, why is she speaking to us? Were you granted yours? A Bangladeshi film director has been arrested and charged after a scene in "Nabab LLB", a fictional courtroom drama, depicted police harshly interrogating a rape victim and highlighting attitudes towards violence against women in the conservative nation sparked the ire of the force. This question... this is why I come here. -That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest.-, About your particular point of "What are we given (shown) at the very end?". The Writer doesn’t want to see what his heart’s true desire actually is, he would rather sit in his nice house complaining than to actually look into his soul. What does the Room supposedly give you? But we all know it's all about the subtext. but i think it has to do with the unity of the strange apocalyptic scripture, the beautiful visuals, the eerie sense of unknowing until that point, and the subtle sound design. Mendes is Chicago's Smile Diner waitress Katie Franklin. Both the novel and the games are among my favourites of all time so I’m quite excited to round out my … That is: The Room had granted him his greatest unconscious desire, which turned out not to be the altruistic "supernatural" resurrection of his brother (as he had claimed it would be) --but, rather, a desire for money, which he got. One woman took to Reddit to get advice on a situation with her ex and his wife, after she and her new fiancé moved into the same neighborhood. Perhaps that works on a literal level. This suggestion of danger (and terror) is deliberate, and throughout the movie it provides a constant tension. A warrant has been issued for Katy Perry’s alleged stalker. He was bothered and horrified that other people didn't have faith like he did. So if the crippled daughter, the wandering dog, the reoccurring images of syringes don’t directly mean something… then what was their point? I would lke some thoughts on it, but as a fair warning, this paragraph is probably irrelevant to your post. Also, you end up finding out that what you are looking at is really something else often, and again transports you somewhere different. I just watched Stalker by Andrei Tarkovsky. So first go watch the movie Stalker… then ask yourself, “What did I just see?”. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. i remember thinking that it was like the stalker, by way of tarkovsky, had preempted how i felt processing the dream sequence, when the music kicks in and then when it quietens down. It's definitely true that the writer and the scientist represent the most cynical and disgusting views of humanity. Stalker Horror Movies. I think the best input I can offer here is that even though he tried to avoid it like the plague... he provided some of the most coherent symbolism of his career with Stalker likely as a result of his ongoing tensions with the Soviet Union. When you enter the inner parts of the Sarcophagus, you reach the wondrous Reactor #4, which was the cause of the real Chernobyl disaster. The example given above about the stalker that did go in… it ruined him. whaaaaaattt it screened at an actual theater ahhh why was I 3000 miles away from it :(. His rejection of posterity speaks to that, I think. My first attempted to watch Stalker was on my bed with a laptop, and about half an hour in… I woke up for the credits. Writer brings all sorts of accusations against Stalker, questioning his motives and his honesty. At about 23 minutes, when Stalker, writer and professor are driving in their car they have to hide for a motorcyclist. Secondly, he shot it twice. This is the unspoken law of those who can lead others to the room. Due to problems with the shooting stock, the dismissal of waves of unsatisfactory assistants by Tarkovsky, and a complete rethinking of the script, Stalker … Thank you :). From an opposite angle of view, he still comes from the right, where it should have been from the left. I saw Stalker 7 years ago in Chicago. The original poster took to Reddit's AITA community in hopes of finding a consensus on what she should do. Here you find a large monolithic crystalline structure (about 5-7 meters high); the so-called Wish Granter, a legend in its own. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll check it out. They did not deserve the gifts of the Zone anyway. This is the point of the Stalker’s worn out frustrated speech - that brings the Wife to speak - to us (the audience). The Stalker doesn’t go in because a ‘stalker’ isn’t supposed to go in. Night Stalker Updates: Now that there has been a lot of criminal series trending these days, Netflix has premiered another enticing original criminal documentary, “Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer.” This series is so attention capturing and the cheerful introduction and tunes help people to get stick with the series. really? phenomenal film. What's your opinion? The dog which then follows The Stalker out of The Zone seems to be a literal manifestation (as well as a symbolic one) of The Zone's "living presence and sentience in the World" now expanding where it "roams.". It should be on those lists of 1,000 movies to see before you die. I still wonder if this was a way of providing her a saintly aura, to let us know there was something special about her before the miracle that ends the film. All Horror has you covered! Until the end of the film we take it on faith based on the characters actions. I would need to read more up on this - but no doubt it influenced him dramatically! france24.com/en/liv... 21.6k 852 comments Stalker is not a "deep" movie because digging deeper and deeper doesn't reveal depths of meaning. In this case - things are so intentional, so perfect - you’d be a fool to say Tarkovsky isn’t trying to “equip your soul for good” - another poorly paraphrased saying of his by me. A Miracle. We walk slowly into a room through those beautiful antique doors to see the sleeping family. and was marrying the Stalker the right thing to do? I've gotta re-watch though and pick more up. Without that ending the discussion would have become "was it real or imagined... and what about the id", thus allowing the much more interesting and fulfilling discussions we have now. I suppose that if the audience is being granted a wish, it is that the ultimate mystery is neither destroyed nor revealed. That jives with my thinking. Funny question you might say… but very important to see whose perspective the movie belongs too… It’s us - the viewer. Thanks for taking the time and providing feedback. Although I suppose it's a way of stating the same thing - existentialism sort of forces a burden of creativity on humanity that didn't previously exist. I’ve read a bit of Tarkovsky’s stuff in the past and here is a quote of his: He never said that exactly - but he meant it, and oh man can he pull it off. I beg you to answer them yourself. Suddenly what she says to us becomes key in hearing what the parable of the master Tarkovsky is longing to share. QUESTIONS to ASK YOURSELF following a viewing of TARKOVSKY’S STALKER. Back in 2015, creator Alanah Pearce would be met with an enigmatic and extremely overbearing online viewer. There are suggestions of oddities, some of which make little sense without having read the novella and short stories on which this is based (such as tying strings to nuts and tossing them ahead), but little else. The Zone of Alienation stretches between the borders of Ukraine and Belarus, and is kept protected by the Ukrainian authorities. Supposedly, the area is kept under l… I thought the movie was great, good enough that I will definitely buy it and watch it a few more times. "The ending has to be understood within the science fiction context of the whole. I think with a movie like this the last line will work. The four-part documentary series about serial killer Richard Ramirez, who killed people in Los Angeles and San Francisco between June 1984 to August 1985, features archival footage, photos, and interviews with survivors, victim’s families, and the detectives who help capture him. Tarkovsky’s masterpiece Stalker recently screened at a theater in Los Angeles and I was able to stay awake for it’s entirety. The heart of most viewers while on the journey to the Room actually want to know if there is a power, a magic. Interesting enough, these are the most popular views expressed by pop culture atheism of today. Stalker struggles with Professor trying to take the bomb away, with Writer intervening several times, tearing Stalker away from the Professor. The Stalker’s speech. That we need an intangible, unverifiable thing to believe (or not believe) in. In the end, that scene brings it all into focus, and takes you, as the watcher, away from an ending and back to re-examine events that are suspected and hinted. We are in the Room as the audience looking back at them - and the Room will give you your heart’s true desire. Whatever the bizarre anomaly that created the horrors of the zone and the magic of the Room also imbued Monkey with powers. One interpretation is that the scene represents the way that there is no amount of evidence that will convince someone of something if they don’t choose to change their view. Were you granted to believe in what this story and I would say Tarkovsky was begging you to believe in… that the Room was real. I'll mull this all over and respond as soon as I can. To him symbolism is a shallow attempt at good art. Point of discussion: Why did the Professor and the Writer lack faith? The Professor was actually there to destroy the room, going into something far beyond what he could explain is something he never wanted. Before you go judging me, watch it and tell me if you don’t yawn a couple of times over the fifteen minute shot when the leads drowsily take naps. after this scene, when all three are awake, the stalker talks about the logic of music (to himself). I immediately started reading about the film and its interpretations. OP gave some history on her situation with her ex before diving into the specifics that has her seeking advice. Point of discussion: What did happiness through sorrow mean to the wife? Here's one point where I differ a bit from the usual interpretation: to me, if the Writer represents the archetype of the artistic, it's rather secondary to his representing existentialism. Refine See titles to watch instantly, titles you haven't rated, etc. We take the alertness of the Stalker and their decisions as evidence of the danger, yet not the proof. I think it'd be easy to interpret Stalker as an autobiographical account of his saga with the USSR. They lacked faith because they have become so numb to the world, numb to taking risks, numb to living; so that their muscles of faith have atrophied to the point of non-existence. I find that the bleak russian exsistentialism makes it a hard movie to watch in full length. what interests me the most is the dream sequence, which i have found very profoundly moving on both viewings. "My engagement to … A trick of the artist here is that the proof of the Room, the faith in it’s reality, is always at question. came to this forum to look for this - for some reason i don't remember reading about this after the first viewing, when i first combed reddit to read about it. Happiness through sorrow is the point. In Andrei Tarkovsky’s Stalker, three men leave the confines of a rotting Eastern European city and walk through a pleasant-looking rural setting. Following the 2006 disaster, animals and plants have been grotesquely mutated and deadly anomalies abound. She lowers the book and starts moving her lips without uttering a sound. The use of sounds to switch between places, time, and emotions is very enthralling. We all know the story by now, so director Tiller Russell can leisurely fill in the plot. That this young girl can suddenly perform "miracles" seems to suggest that the power of The Room (carried out of the Zone by The Dog) has finally found someone worthy of bestowing almost Godlike powers upon: A young, good-hearted, love-filled, undoubting girl. Marrying the man with faith, joining together with faith doesn’t make the journey perfect - but it makes it worth it. aside from being beautifully, beautifully shot, there is something very touching about it that i can't pin down. Did you see the magic that speaks of a power beyond? Next there are two speeches at the climax of the movie that must be discussed. Something huge that I feel like a fool for overlooking. For the purpose of making this article flow better, the narrator will be referred to by this name. So I want to write this before I read your post, just because it's been stewing for a few days. (Hint: the Room fulfills one’s true desires.). Remember the warning about the old Stalker who went into the Room to heal his brother but came out rich instead - committing suicide when he realized that he wasn’t as noble as he thought. 6. There are few movies and TV shows from the 1960s through early 1980s that can be considered Proto-Girls With Guns. Remember the shot looking back on the three travelers, worn out, the Professor throwing pieces of the bomb? The Zone is triggering an evolutionary shift that people born before it existed struggle to understand. I was keen to have a low key day on r/TF after like 17 posts recently and then you go and post a thorough, fascinating and gorgeous breakdown of one of my favourite films ever that happens to be deeply embedded in my soul. One wonders if he tried to keep it relatively subtle to avoid further tensions with them. It’s just the plot of Eli that was a bit too weird and left lots of people with a … Also, I thought the writer expressed existential attitudes but the film was pretty decidedly against all of that. It certainly changed how I view the medium, and it's an instant favorite. Why are they there? Like Annihilation, Stalker is a heady, cerebral movie about the baggage people carry, and how it might manifest in a surreal setting that reflects people’s interior lives in unpredictable ways. Every clue, setback, and recalculation in Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer is satisfyingly frustrating. Here's my brief breakdown of the film's last key passages, for whatever new or obvious insights they may provide: Regarding the meaning of the film's final minutes, here's how I read it: The Stalker, The Writer, and The Professor ultimately decided not to enter The Room because of the cautionary story regarding Porcupine. 3. Who goes into the Room during the film? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, News & Discussion about Major Motion Pictures, Press J to jump to the feed. It all starts promising enough. Now to ask again does anyone go into the Room? I happened to see this for the first time three days ago, not knowing anything about the film or Tarkovsky. If he were meant to purely represent the Creative, he would be fine with being appreciated only after his death. Ie. trilogy of PC games released between 2007 and 2009. From this, we can imply that these sorts of (perhaps essential) great human values had been passed along to her daughter as she was being raised...--As we next witness, in another room, the daughter herself reading a superb work of Literature, filling her mind with grand poems of Love, which can be seen as a proof of her sweet, magnificent "inner world." But that was a "crass" miracle which ended up driving him to suicide, because it made Porcupine realize he wasn't a very good man. Why don’t the heroes go into the Room? The Cripple daughter moves items through telekinesis. Tarkovsky made film to inspire the soul - to equip the audience to love more. There are some great mysteries in the film. He shots that three hour film twice. Stalker (1979) A poetic sense for the dreamlike hold of memory and the elemental grandeur of nature already shines through Tarkovsky’s first feature Ivan’s Childhood (1962), within the more conventional, suspenseful format of a Soviet war movie about a 12-year-old on reconnaissance at the front. They earned the R rating almost entirely based on violence. thanks for this. 10. My ANSWERS: (Again please watch and answer the above questions before reading below.). So to answer “What was Stalker about?” I pose the following list of questions. That if we are given the answers to something, it is not worthy of being our spiritual quest. Was your desire fulfilled from going into the Room? I would argue faith. 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